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Comments on: Resource damage below Tioga Lodge: Observations and photographs http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/ A refreshing collection of all things Mono Lake brought to you by the Mono Lake Committee staff Sun, 20 May 2018 21:12:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.6 By: Bartshé, Education Director http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4397 Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:11:23 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4397 Steve,
No that was not Construction Specialty, but another contractor from out of the area.

Chuck,
We don’t know of any prior communication that took place with Mono County or the Mono Lake Tufa State Reserve. County and State Park staff said there were no permits. State Park staff repeatedly warned the contractor that he was working on/damaging State Park property, but the work continued after the ranger departed.

Best,
Bartshe

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By: Chuck http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4396 Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:35:43 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4396 Has not anyone contacted the owner of Tioga Lodge and inquired about PERMITS for work that was to be done. Does her property claim include the area being worked in? If State Boundary was marked then the contractor should be held responsible, did they not do a pre job meet with State and property owner and MLC? If not then who failed in the communication process, did they have the required permits do the work ?

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By: Steve Cleland http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4393 Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:27:33 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4393 Was that construction specialty’s excavator?

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By: A. Pols http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4391 Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:56:34 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4391 I see. That does put a bit of a spin on things.

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By: David Carle http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4390 Mon, 21 Nov 2016 02:33:49 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4390 The Tioga Lodge owner has expressed a desire to build a campground on the land, so removing the burned vegetation is an attempt to clear the area for that purpose, we’ve heard. The State Reserve boundary was marked and the operator should have had no problem avoiding going that low, though this land owner has expressed an opinion in the past that her property claim should go all the way to the lakeshore, disputing the State’s ownership.

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By: A. Pols http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4389 Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:17:37 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4389 They probably had in mind mitigation of risk from future fire activity, but I don’t really know. Maybe they even thought they were being good stewards and cleaning up the mess created by the fire. Maybe the drainage alterations were only temporary and they had a plan to restore the creek channel once they were done with the work, but we will never really know since the work was interrupted.
Having been there in August, I could see that Tioga Lodge escaped destruction by a thin margin.
I doubt the owners have deep pockets and I wonder what will become of the soon to be abandoned property once their ritual crucifixion is accomplished. All the blood thirsty calls for “civil and maybe criminal repercussions” make me sad that folks are so mean spirited.

I had a conversation with Norman Dechaine a couple of years ago in which he expressed his concern that the MLC had gone too far beyond its original mission of restoring water flow to the lake and had morphed into another “wilderness preservation” organization funded by donations from prosperous tourists who had passed through the area and thought it would be really nice if human economic uses of the lake basin were eliminated so the area would become “pristine”.

I count myself among those tourists and have written checks to the MLC for many years, but I’m not so sure I’ll continue to do so.

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By: Jeff L. http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4388 Sun, 20 Nov 2016 09:52:12 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4388 Has anyone asked them why they were bulldozing property that didn’t belong to them? I mean, what was their intended goal with the bulldozing?

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By: Richard Beebe http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4386 Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:25:05 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4386 I would have most harsh words of expression toward those responsible for the damage.

“What the … were you thinking?!” comes to mind, most likely with a strong emphasis on the missing word. Growing older allows me to grow a bit more blunt of displayed stupidity!

So, what were they:
(1) thinking?
(2) thinking they could get away with, in “plain sight”?
(3) knowing of the boundary line to state-protected lands?

For their bold plans and bull-minded intentions, I hope they appreciate and willingly accept the civil, and maybe criminal, repercussions of their choice of actions.

Maybe they’ll learn something. Maybe?

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By: Peter Ralston http://www.monolake.org/today/2016/11/18/resource-damage-below-tioga-lodge-observations-and-photographs/comment-page-1/#comment-4385 Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:37:58 +0000 http://www.monolake.org/today/?p=22347#comment-4385 Thank you for your thorough description of the damage done by the heavy machinery below the Tioga Lodge. What were they thinking??!!
Your information will be very useful in following the hoped-for recovery of the area over the next few months, but the erosion caused by the abnormal
water flows may impede the restoration of the plant life.
We’ll see.
Peter

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